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FrozenFlames: Alright, welcome to PsiOnline and UPC's (Unified Psionic Club) joint seminar. Today we'll be covering the topic of TELEPATHIC scanning and deciphering.
FrozenFlames: Firstly, I want to bring you all abreast on a method UPC has been using for seminars/classes/etc. When I ask you all to tell me when you're done with something, if you're ok with something, or something similar, I will ask you to "check off".
FrozenFlames: This means simply putting in a period and hitting "enter/send/whatever". This is a LOT simpler, rather than getting spammed with a mass Private Message.
FrozenFlames: Scanning itself is a very broad topic. One with the ability to scan in one area of psionics may completely lack the skill in another form of scanning. I'm assuming everyone here knows the approximate definition of "scanning" in general. If not, speak up now.
FrozenFlames: Coke: Exactly
FrozenFlames: Ok, so to start off, I want to you all to spend about a minute within your minds. I know this sounds weird, but I need you all to get a feel for what its like to be shifting around a mind, moving and wading through thoughts.
FrozenFlames: Meanwhile, tons of your own thoughts, most likely about the seminar, will get in your way. Spend about a minute on this, don't take TO long, but don't do this for a just two seconds either.
FrozenFlames: check off when you're done, PM any questions
FrozenFlames: What I want you to do is start recalling some memories, so you get to the point where you've forgotten about your body, and you're entirely in your thoughts. Shift through some random memories and/or thoughts, think of some odd shapes, do some random things
Coke: .
* stony1205 changes topic to 'Telepathy seminar in progress.'
Coke: .
Sp4rkS: .
FrozenFlames: lidless_i: its hard to forget about my body because i know im supposed to be forgetting about my body
FrozenFlames: FrozenFlames: don't try to forget
FrozenFlames: FrozenFlames: just daydream about some memories
FrozenFlames: FrozenFlames: think hard about stuff
FrozenFlames: lidless_i: ok
FrozenFlames: FrozenFlames: you'll naturally forget
Coke: going though memories is making me sad...
peebrain: think of happy memories
Coke: .
FrozenFlames: alright, this is enough time, anyone who is here should check off. if you don't check off, you get kicked for idling in our seminar
lidless_i: .
jaci: .
JoeRoger: .
Coke: .
peebrain: .
lidless_i: .
Bobrobyn: .
* Oneta flies away...
jaci: .
Sp4rkS: .
Oneta: .
FrozenFlames: alright
FrozenFlames: in the future, i dont' need to know your personal feelings about your memoreies (coke) :-)
Coke: .
FrozenFlames: From here, we need to split up into partners. I won't pair you up if necessary, so I'll give you all twenty seconds to fight and war over who gets who as their partner. At time up, whoever is left will be paired up by me, stony, or both.
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FrozenFlames: Now, there are so many theories going around about psi, and I would rather not delve into them all. I'm simply going to state a few things, you will do them, and you can form your own opinions and theories after the fact, whether they agree or disagree with what I've said
FrozenFlames: basically, do the stuff now, and form your own ideas later. believe what you want from your experience
FrozenFlames: Now, though telepathy does not require a link, it does help greatly. I personally do not tend to use links, but if needed, I'm not afraid to throw one out now and then
FrozenFlames: Linking itself requires not just an article, but an entire book. Or maybe, a series of books. There is a vast variety of links along with different ways they function and form. To attempt explaining them all is too difficult, so I'll just go over two forms today. I will not state exactly WHAT you're doing with these links and HOW they work, just know that you ARE linking in one way or another.
FrozenFlames: I will begin to tell you your next instructions, DO NOT begin until I say, "You may begin NOW".
FrozenFlames: (no need to check off unless i say guys)
FrozenFlames: To start off, one partner (partner A) will just sit and relax. The other (partner B) will clear their mind by whatever method they like best. Counting BACKWARDS from 20-10 often helps.
FrozenFlames: From here, partner B will begin to slowly repeat partner A's nick/name over and over in their head. As you do this, you need to keep in mind the "will" to find this person's mind. As you almost "chant" your partner's name/nick, you should "feel out" for their mind. This should be done entirely tactile, visual visualization does not help.
FrozenFlames: After awhile, you should suddenly "know" that you've found them. Usually I can almost "feel" them in/on the right side of my mind (I do not know why it is the right side, it just is :-P). If your asking how do you "feel" and "do" all this stuff, there is no answer, you just DO
FrozenFlames: Also, when I feel "THEM", it is me feeling a mixture of their psionic signature and their awareness. I'm assuming you know what this is as well, but if you don't, tell me now.
FrozenFlames: As a side note, all this "searching out" and "reaching" for their mind, and "feeling" them is very similar to Remote Viewing. If you've successfully done RV in the past, this should be fairly simple for you. However, rather than using RV coordinates, we're using a person and their mind.
FrozenFlames: Just keep their name in mind while you "reach out" with the intention of finding them. This can take 5 seconds or 5 minutes, take your time. Eventually it should "snap", and you'll get some sort of feeling of them.
FrozenFlames: Though most are used to a form of linking where you feel the person as a separate mind away from your own, with this method, their mind should exist almost within your own. Hopefully, it will be almost as if their mind is a part of your mind, but more on that later.
FrozenFlames: any questions before we begin?
FrozenFlames: yes/no/maybe so?
FrozenFlames: In that case, ou may begin now.
FrozenFlames: *you
FrozenFlames: post any results, comments, questions, etc. in the chat
FrozenFlames: alright, hows it working out for you guys?
peebrain: worked good, got a connection
peebrain: made Oneta feel "anxious"
FrozenFlames: does it feel as i said, almost WITHIN your mind, rather than a seperate "thing"?
FrozenFlames: lol
peebrain: ummmm... depends on how I decide to interpret it... I can push it either inside or outside of my mind
peebrain: right now it's sitting in my chest
Oneta: Yeah
Oneta: :-\
Oneta: Mine too
FrozenFlames: This method freaked me out at first, because I wasn't sure what it was. I kept thinking it was a daydream because the thoughtproccess was within my own. Through this method however, I found some cool things
Oneta: Where I felt it
FrozenFlames: you can push it around usually, yeah, its all an interpretation
FrozenFlames: anyone else have anything to say? if you made some sort of connection, check off
peebrain: .
Oneta: .
FrozenFlames: look at sean, so cooperative and attentive :-)
Oneta: !!!
FrozenFlames: and oneta!
Psychic_Alchemist: *cough teachers pet *cough* :P
Bobrobyn: lol
JoeRoger: .
jaci: .
ANKA: FF, I think you should pair up Easton and PA
ANKA: They got in late
FrozenFlames: sure, sounds good to me
FrozenFlames: and if stony can catch them up :-)
FrozenFlames: alright, we're going to move on now, if you don't have a connection, don't sweat it
Coke: .
FrozenFlames: just relax and try to focus, "reach" out and wait
FrozenFlames: Now, you want to focus on the thought flows and patterns that you feel within their mind. Somewhere within the feeling of them, if you focus on that part of your mind almost as if it is a beat you trance to, you should start to feel the passage of their thoughts.
lidless_i: .
Sp4rkS: .
FrozenFlames: by now, you should be focusing to the point where you forget your body again, this sort of thing happnes a lot IMO
FrozenFlames: Though you may not understand what you "hear", you should still hear the thoughts flowing throughout the surface of their mind. Just like when you're in a crowd and all the noise is incoherent, it should be similar.
FrozenFlames: You may feel pressure in your forehead. If you focus part of your mind on this area, or wherever you feel energy collect, it can help. Focusings or "charging" this area can sometimes improve your scan.
FrozenFlames: Of course, don't let this focus get in the way of your excersise
FrozenFlames: From here, you can learn to "search" out for more specific signals within their mind. Searching deeper, below the surface thoughts and into their mind. This goes without saying, but it takes practice on your own time
FrozenFlames: this is usually a very interesting excersise for me, and extremely productive. I like ot do this sort of thing when i have some time on my hand, in the middle of a focal meditation. i focus on differnet thought flows and patterns, learning how to isolate them and how i can move the proccess throughout my mind
* Oneta is hearing things he hopes is not peebs :-O
FrozenFlames: I personally find sending easier via this method, with their thought flow within your mind, but that is not exactly the topic of this seminar so i won't go into it.
FrozenFlames: peebs: stop thinking so loud ;-)
peebrain: that's like telling an artist to stop painting
Sp4rkS: depends what he's painting.
FrozenFlames: oh so true
FrozenFlames: Now, the partner being scanned, do you notice any sensations?
Bobrobyn: Pressure in the middle of the forhead..."3rd eye" region.
peebrain: the connection was mostly gone, until you reminded me of it
FrozenFlames: the connection from this method seems to be very useful, but fades VERY quickly once attention
FrozenFlames: oooook
FrozenFlames: are you all ready to move on?
lidless_i: i was the scanner but i felt pressure in my forehead
FrozenFlames: check off if you ARE
Sp4rkS: .
peebrain: .
JoeRoger: .
Coke: .
Oneta: .
lidless_i: .
FrozenFlames: lidless_i: normal
lidless_i: k
ANKA: .
FrozenFlames: bob?
Bobrobyn: .
FrozenFlames: alright
Psychic_Alchemist: .
Easton: .
FrozenFlames: Now we need to disconnect. To do so, feel their mind and visualize some sort of connection with your minds, perhaps as a light. Then feel their mind fading from your senses, and visualize the light dimming.
FrozenFlames: In one smooth moment, "push" their mind from your own, visualize the light representing the connection disappearing, and completely forget about them. Put your entire focus on something else.
FrozenFlames: disconnection shouldn't be to difficult
lidless_i: when i visualize dissconecting with the light method my actual vision brightens?!
FrozenFlames: are you asking me or telling me?
peebrain: heh
lidless_i: im telling you
Coke: that's odd
FrozenFlames: nice
FrozenFlames: never heard that one before
lidless_i: well could it be dangerous?
Coke: I doubt it.
FrozenFlames: make sure you light doesn't have a dimmer one it first of all :-)
lidless_i: it doesnt
FrozenFlames: next, no, i doubt it is. if it keeps reoccuring, i might have it checked out, especially if there are other side affects
FrozenFlames: but i'm in no position to give medical advice, thats first and foremost
lidless_i: mabey its just some biofeedback :)
Psychic_Alchemist: heh
FrozenFlames: right
FrozenFlames: once you're done disconnecting, check off please
Coke: .
Psychic_Alchemist: That's like a Mc Donald's worker giving nutritional advice :P
lidless_i: .
Easton: .
Psychic_Alchemist: .
Bobrobyn: .
Sp4rkS: .
JoeRoger: .
jaci: .
FrozenFlames: once your disconnected, its the other partners turn
Coke: .
FrozenFlames: while the other partner is accomplishing the excersise, you guys may like to state any comments you have. anything you noted, etc. or you may not :-)
FrozenFlames: just keep me informed with whats going on, once you've connected, tell me please
Psychic_Alchemist: hmm a rippling feeling
FrozenFlames: define "rippling feeling"
Psychic_Alchemist: a quick rushing and burshing feeling across my field
FrozenFlames: *nod* thats interesting is well. just keep in mind to relax and stay within your mind
FrozenFlames: "reach" out for the sensation of their mind, and when it "snaps", focus on it
FrozenFlames: if you get that ripple again, tell me. though its probably just some normal thing, it interests me
FrozenFlames: alright, if you're ready to move on, check off. if you're NOT ready, put in an exclamation point in the place of a period
lidless_i: .
FrozenFlames: once you put that period in, disconnect
peebrain: .
lidless_i: from there minds or the chat?
Psychic_Alchemist: their minds.
FrozenFlames: theIr minds
lidless_i: ok
Bobrobyn: FF- quick question
Coke: .
FrozenFlames: PM Bobrobyn
Bobrobyn: k
Coke: That was one of the oddest things I've ever done, and that's saying something...
FrozenFlames: Bobrobyn: How're you stupposed to navigate when all you get is static? Bobrobyn: I'm guessing from their mind...like, it's like a big blob of everything, all at once, comming out as static.
lidless_i: me and coke managed to access a few memories of each other is what hes talking about
Psychic_Alchemist: what about that time you got mixed up with pepsi ? :P
FrozenFlames: usually you need to use some focal meditation skills. rather than being forceful, you need to really just relax completely
FrozenFlames: calm down and focus on your intent in the back of your mind
Ejji: Can I ask a question?
FrozenFlames: while "looking" through the static, don't focus on it but pass it on as your own random thoughts, just keeping in mind the intent of your search. usually something will "pop" out at you, and from there you can trace the signal of what caught your attention
FrozenFlames: Ejji:Sure
FrozenFlames: Bob: Thats all I can really say for now, it seems like something that would require another seminar of its own
Ejji: Thank you.. well, you know when.. you see someone in pain by tooth ache or head ache and sometimes you feel it too, it's in your head though?
FrozenFlames: Ejji: Ok
FrozenFlames: What is your question
Ejji: Well, do you think this seminar now could be you influencing them to feel this way, but you don't think you are doing it? It's not a bash, just a question.
FrozenFlames: no i don't
FrozenFlames: though i suppose it is possible
Coke: Hey, well, my head slightly hurts, which it wasn't doing before this seminar...
Psychic_Alchemist: I doubt one psion could affect this many other psions on their own.
Ejji: ..you dont understand.
Psychic_Alchemist: That doesn't seem logically realistic to me.
FrozenFlames: ANKA: rippling effect is most likly lack of focused frequincies
FrozenFlames: ANKA: blled over from TP, to dircet psi energy effect
lidless_i: well ive got to leave bye
lidless_i: sorry
Coke: 'bye, and thanks.
FrozenFlames: Coke: Thats natural as well, try to relax. If it really hurts, just sit out for awhile and drink some....you know it: OJ
Sp4rkS: Bye lidless_i.
lidless_i: your welcome
lidless_i: bye all
Psychic_Alchemist: but oj kill!
Ejji: It's natural to have head pains?
Psychic_Alchemist: *kills
Coke: Ok, thanks.
Psychic_Alchemist: I dont care what the jury says :P
FrozenFlames: Psychic_Alchemist: It is more than possible (Psychic_Alchemist: I doubt one psion could affect this many other psions on their own.)
FrozenFlames: Ejji: From stress, of course
Psychic_Alchemist: That would take a good deal of psi to do though
Ejji: People are easily influenced by their surroundings, its a flaw.
Ejji: Nothing to do with Psi.
FrozenFlames: we'll be moving on now
Ejji: Why:?
FrozenFlames: so disconnect if you aren't already
Psychic_Alchemist: Ejji: part of psionics is mental control, so that seems doubtful.
FrozenFlames: this seminar is going long, so we'll have to hurry. afterwards, practice on your own time. UPC has 4 practices per week
FrozenFlames: Next, we want to try the more commonly known method of scanning. You should already have their "feel", so it should be easier this time. Visualize their body (whether you know what they look like or not) standing in front of you. Remember to visualize EVERTHING from a first person viewpoint. Third person DOES NOT WORK.
Ejji: No.. I mean like, influenced without Psi, just influence.
Psychic_Alchemist: so do I.
FrozenFlames: Ejji: Finish this in a PM please
Ejji: No, forget it, continue.
Coke: aw, but my partner went away.....
FrozenFlames: Next, form a ball of energy, and attach it to your head. Now, with your eyes closed, visualizing your partner's body 10 or so feet in front of you, stretch the psiball into a tentacle towards them.
FrozenFlames: As you stretch the energy towards them, keep in mind the will that you're "reaching" out towards their "feeling". Once it touches them, slowly push it into their mind and let it go, make sure your end is within your mind as well.
Psychic_Alchemist: sorry FF
FrozenFlames: From here, put your focus on the link and keep in mind the will that it is a stream of energy with the intention of focusing the transfer of telepathic information.
FrozenFlames: Psychic_Alchemist: np
Psychic_Alchemist: :)
FrozenFlames: "Feel" the person "through" the link and "feel" what it is meant to do. This method will most likely give a much stronger sensation on the forehead, where the tangible link is connected.
FrozenFlames: From here, spend a nice amount of time pouring mass upon mass amounts of energy into the link. Put it IN the link itself, as well as stream energy THROUGH the link. Visualize it becoming more solid and powerful, and visualize the transfer of thoughts.
FrozenFlames: a lot of this is just conceptual programming. keeping in mind that this is a link is usually enough, so don't sweat that part
FrozenFlames: just work on this now, obviously one partner at a time :-)
FrozenFlames: I'll give you all 2 minutes
FrozenFlames: don't rush, once the time is up, i won't neccessarily move on
FrozenFlames: alright
FrozenFlames: if you're not ready, speak up
Sp4rkS: here here.
FrozenFlames: alright
Coke: my partner left. :(
FrozenFlames: while we wait for Sp4rkS, do the rest of you have any comments? also, anyone else without a partner that can go with Coke?
* Psychic_Alchemist gives coke a can of diet coke to partner with
Coke: yay, a diet coke.
Coke: Could I try my sister, because I know her pretty well...
Coke: *??
Psychic_Alchemist: no, this isn't mississipi, we dont do that here :P
FrozenFlames: Coke: If you want :-)
Coke: ok
FrozenFlames: alright, moving on
Psychic_Alchemist: hmm your right FF, this new method is MUCH stronger
FrozenFlames: From here, you should have a good connection. Now sit back and relax. Lightly focus on the link, and attempt to feel whom it is connected to. This time, you should feel their mind as a separate entity. It should be something that feels much farther away, and you should feel a bit of your awareness focused on something more distant. Keep in mind that, though you feel their mind as an entity separate and farther from your own, thi
FrozenFlames: did that get cut off?
Psychic_Alchemist: yes it did
peebrain: "and farther from your own, thi"
Psychic_Alchemist: entity separate and farther from your own, thi
FrozenFlames: Keep in mind that, though you feel their mind as an entity separate and farther from your own, this method is not necessarily any weaker (or stronger) than the other. It depends on the person.
Coke: .
FrozenFlames: So Psychic_Alchemist, you just noted that it is MUCH stronger. However, I usually prefere the other method. Though this one has a stronger sensation, it isn't neccessarily stronger.
FrozenFlames: Now, from here you may like to try a little quick game. Have one partner (Partner A) focus on a colored shape (square, circle, star, triangle - blue, red, green, yellow). Have the other partner (Partner B) focus on the intent of finding Partner A's surface thoughts.
FrozenFlames: DO NOT FORCE THIS. That is the foremost important rule. You must relax and do not try to "drag" the information out. Simply focus on the feeling of their mind, and keep in mind the intent of finding their surface thoughts.
FrozenFlames: Keep this intent strongly in the back of your mind; for it is what will focus what you receive, it's like picking the channel on a TV. Without the intent, you would receive all the "channels" at once as a blur.
FrozenFlames: Then, begin LIGHTLY "pulling" energy through (not from) the link into yourself. Keep at this, simply focusing on your will, keeping your mind clear. When you have an impression of the thought, go with it immediately. The first instinct is usually correct.
Coke: blue square!
ANKA: Coke, do you need a partener?
Coke: yes
ANKA: Hold on, let me tak some sheilds down
ANKA: Ok, link to me
FrozenFlames: thanks a lot ANKA, you'd probably be the BEST person for him to link to here
FrozenFlames: nothing like participating with somebody who can really help you along and know whats happening
ANKA: Not really I have agressive defenseives against unwated TP
FrozenFlames: so says your post about house shields....
FrozenFlames: back to the seminar, how is this going?
Psychic_Alchemist: we've had success
FrozenFlames: i'm not really looking for success today
FrozenFlames: that comes as a later point of interest, after practice
FrozenFlames: right now, i'm looking for what sensations you guys are getting
FrozenFlames: what you "feel" is "going on"
FrozenFlames: and obviously, any problems
Psychic_Alchemist: energy flowing in and out
FrozenFlames: *nod*
FrozenFlames: alright, this seminar has been going for about an hour now, so lets hurry this up. you guys are more than welcome to check the UPC forums (www.upconline.net) and look at the practice group sticky. we'll most likely be practicing what we've learned from today
FrozenFlames: Now we approach the topic of disconnecting, which is usually more difficult with this form of linking. This must be done smoothly with no mistakes, otherwise a small (or large) portion of the link will remain on some level (there is more than one "level" and "frequency" in which links exist, difficult to explain).
FrozenFlames: First, you must stop the flow of energy through the link. Tactile-wise, you simply "feel" the link becoming "dead" and unused. "Feel" the energy flow stopping completely.
FrozenFlames: Visual-Visualization-wise (my preferred method for this form of linking), I like to see the link as some sort of living attachment, almost like a connecting vine. From there, I visualize all the energy flow stopping completely, and the vine turning brown, brittle, and dead.
FrozenFlames: Next, break the link in one quick movement. Along with my vine/link visualization, I see if decompose into dust at a rapid rate, and dissolve into the ground.
FrozenFlames: Once you stop the energy flow, the feeling on your forehead should dissipate quite a bit. Once you destroy the link, for a split second the entire sensation of being linked should disappear.
FrozenFlames: If you continue thinking about the link for even one second after you feel it disappear, there's a large chance you will reconnect by accident.
FrozenFlames: So at the very moment the link is destroyed, put the entirety of your mind and being on something else. Do some TK, a few pushups, count backwards, ANYTHING you can to completely take your mind off the person and the notion of a link.
FrozenFlames: start once you've thoroughly read it all
FrozenFlames: if you're done, i need to know :-)
Psychic_Alchemist: done
Easton: Completed
ANKA: Why is it wierd?
Sp4rkS: Done.
peebrain: done
ANKA: Wrong Window
FrozenFlames: if anyone's partner says something interesting, you might like to post it in here for the furtherence of fellow students
FrozenFlames: switch partners now, for the last time
stony1205: get their consent first
FrozenFlames: obviously :-) thanks stony
stony1205: tis my job, as I'm not teaching squat rightnow
ANKA: Done
FrozenFlames: also, as the other partner does this excerise, post any comments YOU have as well. and i LOVE questions
FrozenFlames: just as something for you all to read after you're done:
ANKA: Switch as in the reciver now sends?
FrozenFlames: we'll have another seminar on more proper scanning. This was simply an introduction, but there is much much more to it than only this.
FrozenFlames: ANKA: No
FrozenFlames: you should disconnect first
FrozenFlames: then the other person should create the link from scratch
ANKA: Did that
FrozenFlames: then yes, reciever now THINKS, do not send the shape
ANKA: this the squid ball energy link one?
FrozenFlames: yes
FrozenFlames: Back to what I was saying, we'll have another seminar on more proper scanning. This was simply an introduction, but there is much much more to it than only this.
FrozenFlames: You must learn how to search through different levels and frequencies of thought and the mind itself. How to decipher and pick apart what you are receiving. How to weed out the AOL (Analytical OverLay). How to become faster and more efficient, etc. Next scanning seminar, we'll work on some exercises for these various topics.
FrozenFlames: With practice, you'll get to the point where you can find anything you're looking for, though this would take....MUCH... practice
FrozenFlames: once your'e done with the other partner, please tell me. and once again, questions OR comments are welcome
* stony1205 sets mode: +m
stony1205: Just for a sec :P
FrozenFlames: alright, if you have not further questions or comments, i'd like to call this seminar to an end
stony1205: So yeah, I hope eveyone liked this one. I will be scheduling another seminar on shielding soon. Check the homepage and your e-mail for news of the next event. I will be teaching that one.
FrozenFlames: feel free to continue practicing with eachother
* stony1205 sets mode: -m
FrozenFlames: this just means....your friendly, lovely FF will be leaving!
FrozenFlames: :-)
jaci: Thanks for the seminar :)
FrozenFlames: np

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